Diff-locker? [Archive] - Nutech Racing Forum

Foxy

04-28-2009, 03:01 PM

Question for Nutech (and Clayton) really...

Are either of you planning on making any diff lockers? Literally a solid piece in place of a center (or F/R if desired) differential?

Here's Clayton's Baja piece for an idea what I mean...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Vertigoperformance/1608Oring.jpg

http://www.vertigoperformance.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=87

mradlin

04-29-2009, 07:28 PM

I think that would be a great option. Good idea Foxy.

Vertigo Performance

04-30-2009, 05:33 AM

Yes we are going to be working on a locker. Because of the unique spring loaded out drives however the locker will be a little more expensive than other ones for other models. Infact it is on the drawing board.

We are probably going back to our Locker company, "Monster Lockers" and get back into lockers for allot of trucks we use to make them for as well.

NUTECH RACING

05-03-2009, 04:23 PM

Cool!

Clayton, please keep on update, thanks :D

Vertigo Performance

05-03-2009, 09:57 PM

Will do Chris..

NUTECH RACING

06-09-2009, 12:25 AM

Any news ?:)

jesi

10-08-2009, 05:03 PM

Maybe limited slip differential?

for Carson Gas Devil/Smartech Titan there is:
http://www.rc-car-online-shop.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/z/y0929/b0.jpg

http://www.rc-car-online-shop.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/n/1193151511-17860.jpg

I think this is direct fit for TB2?
if not or Nutech can make it better, so idea might be good?

RCKIWI

10-08-2009, 11:26 PM

That is the FG locking diff, I think the std diff's in the TB2's are far superior to these diffs. But a proper LSD blocking diff would be good:D

jesi

10-09-2009, 04:31 AM

http://www.rc-car-online-shop.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/z/y0929/b2.jpg

http://www.rc-car-online-shop.de/cgi-bin/cosmoshop/lshop.cgi?action=showdetail&wkid=26536&ls=e&nc=1255059037-27190&rubnum=&artnum=y0929&file=&gesamt_zeilen=0Tsuche--y0929

dc2 man

10-09-2009, 10:34 AM

And as we are at it,have you considered making a balldrive system.?

must better system,quiter,more efficent & less wear.....

mradlin

10-09-2009, 12:51 PM

there is this on one of my other forums. http://5thscaleracingforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2674

jesi

10-09-2009, 04:23 PM

And as we are at it,have you considered making a balldrive system.?

must better system,quiter,more efficent & less wear.....

:eek: ball diff in 1:5 car?

dc2 man

10-09-2009, 05:40 PM

hello jessi

not being rude or anything but could you read my post again

BALL DRIVE....;)

jesi

10-09-2009, 05:48 PM

yeah, i did read that many times.

Never heard from balldrive.
.avi?, .jpg?, .url?

mradlin

10-09-2009, 06:05 PM

http://5thscaleracingforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3254

jesi

10-09-2009, 06:13 PM

Hmm, that is new for me :mad:

mradlin

10-09-2009, 07:19 PM

I think the ball drive he used is from the FG vehicles.

jesi

10-25-2009, 04:50 PM

Chris, how about Torsen differential (to center)?

It is very simple and works nice on 1:1 and 1:8 cars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen

There is just six gears inside and it will balance torque bias in real time.
Where is better grip, it delivers power to that axle.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/images/t1_wpl.jpg

There is no parts what need any adjusting or maintenance.

nicolas

10-25-2009, 08:38 PM

+1 Torsen differential

mradlin

10-26-2009, 12:50 PM

That would be a great addition for the Nutech vehicles. :excited:

Pipeous

12-24-2009, 05:46 PM

Torsen difs +3

jesi

01-12-2010, 09:38 PM

Anything new from diff lockers?

O.J.Racing

01-14-2010, 01:17 PM

Why would you want to lock the centre diff would this not stress the drive train when landing of jumps etc?

Pipeous

01-14-2010, 01:41 PM

you are speaking the juice OJ ;) . Yes it is harder on the drivetrain especially on power landings. Some people like the direct feel, like most 10th scales are but you also lose brake bias.

O.J.Racing

01-14-2010, 02:01 PM

you are speaking the juice OJ ;) . Yes it is harder on the drivetrain especially on power landings. Some people like the direct feel, like most 10th scales are but you also lose brake bias.

Most 1/10th scale buggy even have a slipper clutch to help take the strain away from the diffs.

As for the torsen diff yes they can be a great tuning aid however when racing I would use one mainly in the front only. In my opinion the best tuning aid is the diff oil, and then experiment to find the best tuning options.

With diff oils I always like to stick to one make this way you learn the oils viscosity even if the bottles are marked as WT or CST at different temperatures when racing.

jesi

01-14-2010, 06:44 PM

When bashing, center diff is making car so bore :beat dead horse:

In track center diff is must.

shaun207

01-19-2010, 11:49 PM

has anyone done anything else to make the diff tighter , i want it as tight as it can be but .. the thickest i could get was 500.0000 and the centre diff still feels loose .....

ive heard of adding blue tack , or emptying /cleaning the diff and refill with some ,pu adhesive ... we use tiger seal over here in the uk ... cheers :surprise:

Pipeous

01-19-2010, 11:57 PM

the thickest stuff you can buy is ofna dif lock. it has to be spooned in!!

my bud is experimenting with some stuff too on his fg tc. he works in a tranny shop and had some http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST%2Fbrowse%2F4%2FAuto%2F3%2FAutoFluidsChemicals% 2FEngineTreatments%2FPRD~0380609P%2FLucas%252BTran smission%252BFix.jsp

mooman007uk

01-20-2010, 04:31 AM

blue tac will lock it...plasticine also works a treat
I'm running 120K in the centre and 50K front and rear and have no complaints, drifts, donuts and hill climbs just fine

raybkk

01-20-2010, 11:08 AM

Why dont we copy the Losi Smart Diff? Both my buggy and truggy got them and its brilliant!

mradlin

01-20-2010, 11:55 AM

Why dont we copy the Losi Smart Diff? Both my buggy and truggy got them and its brilliant!

Is this it?
http://www.losi.com/Products/Gallery.aspx?ProdID=LOSA3602&Index=0

It certainly looks good. It says it's adjustable also.

O.J.Racing

01-20-2010, 12:04 PM

Most drivers after running the losi active diff dumped them, reports on other sites say there team drivers don’t even use them.

raybkk

01-20-2010, 12:20 PM

Been using them ever since I got them. The cornering is lots better. But you will need to change a bit on how you drive as you want to keep power on the diffs...
Again depending on what track you drive. With the different springs supplied you can tune them.
Losi Factory drivers that were here last month were certainly using them!

O.J.Racing

01-20-2010, 12:30 PM

Most drivers here tried them on grass and astro both high grip surfaces and didn’t like them, not sure what surface your racing on.

I like the Hobao spider diff they run 2 extra gears and allow you to use lighter oils over the standard diff.

mradlin

01-22-2010, 06:49 PM

Talking to Clayton at VP they are going to be producing lockers for a line up of vehicles. They are looking at the Nutech to be one of them..
I believe they are going to be sold under the brand name Monster Lockers.

jesi

01-22-2010, 06:54 PM

Oh!

Nice.

But please pics, so can see is that perfect :)

Vertigo Performance

01-22-2010, 08:15 PM

We did lockers for years and now are getting back into them.

fred

01-31-2010, 12:43 AM

well hurry up Clayton i need them lol and i think they will go real well in the shop (PSR)

NUTECH RACING

03-18-2010, 06:51 AM

Anyone Want to see some pics of new diff ?:top secret:

bentley marshall

03-18-2010, 07:09 AM

yep
yep yep yep yep yep

nicolas

03-18-2010, 07:36 AM

Really?:excited:the one i'm thinking about ???

NUTECH RACING

03-18-2010, 08:00 AM

LOL

Only the Alu diff case arrived, will post some pics later.:dance:

Vertigo Performance

03-18-2010, 08:02 AM

Chris, is this a new diff as an option? or new diff standard in the cars? How is it different?

NUTECH RACING

03-18-2010, 08:05 AM

New optional diff. you will see the difference we will post some pics later.

Nutech Ethan

03-18-2010, 09:16 AM

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx199/nutechracing/DSC09739.jpg?t=1268900129

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx199/nutechracing/DSC09747.jpg?t=1268900165

nicolas

03-18-2010, 12:49 PM

:dance::party time:

Awesome !!!!

Vertigo Performance

03-18-2010, 03:58 PM

That looks nice!!!

mradlin

03-18-2010, 04:32 PM

That looks really good Chris. Is it a Torsen style diff?

sickboy

03-18-2010, 07:45 PM

That dose look like the torsen diff.

Merlin

03-18-2010, 09:58 PM

Very nice indeed :D

RCKIWI

03-19-2010, 01:55 AM

I can't wait to get my hands on a few of these for my off & on road Nutechs:D

I think they still need needle roller bearings in housing for the drive cup's instead of alloy on steel!

mradlin

03-19-2010, 03:21 AM

I can't wait to get my hands on a few of these for my off & on road Nutechs:D

I think they still need needle roller bearings in housing for the drive cup's instead of alloy on steel!

I agree, the needle bearings would make it really smooth.

Freeprawn

03-21-2010, 12:59 AM

Ever since I started racing Large Scale 4wd cars I've wanted a torsen dif for the front axel.

When this gets released I may weep tears of joy :yahoo:

Nige

jesi

03-28-2010, 10:44 AM

Please add hole&screw cap to diff case, what allows check/remove/add oil without taking diff out from car!

Small hole is ok, this oil change can be done with syringe.

Quattronist

11-10-2010, 08:18 PM

Good evening everybody,

any news on that? I just went through all the possibilities, but seems a torsen is what I need / want...

So, when could we purchase that great stuff?

Cheers

Pipeous

11-12-2010, 10:27 PM

I liked having a torsen in the center when I was racing 8th scale buggy. benefits of a locker on acceleration and a loose dif for brake bias

VINCE14

11-13-2010, 08:49 AM

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/VINCE14_photos/NUTECH/P1060496.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/VINCE14_photos/NUTECH/P1060479.jpg

hello
i suppose it is that , you want, but for the moment Fiorini dont want do to other
normally it was for Marder in year 1998, to put on TB2, you must buy a gear of Smartech
i dont know why.
I know Nutech is working on ...

Vince14

mynameismud76

11-13-2010, 12:53 PM

Merci pour photo Vince..

That's a work of art!!

Pipeous

11-13-2010, 05:03 PM

I was on fiorini's website and see nothing now for 5th scale, so you'd have to find one on ebay somewhere if lucky. I'd love torsens.

Freeprawn

11-13-2010, 07:26 PM

Hiya,

I have all the bearings, gears and shims in stock to be able to fit FG size diffs (which have needle bearings for the diff output cups) in the Nutech. in the front, centre or rear diff positions.

It's a real easy mod to do no chopping just a bit of patience and it can be sorted real easy.

At the moment I'm running a standard Nutech diff up front (with a nutech alloy diff case fitted), which has operated flawlessly since new, A Oddified (Harm) mag diff in the centre, this is an amazing diff to have in the centre and a smartech alloy diff in the rear (smartech uses spline drive, I'm not into those little drive pins in the rear diff. I've broke two and they are a pain to replace!!!) which is very smooth and again has worked flawlessly. I also run a CNC diff gearbox case at the rear. My drive train is bullet proof :punk: very happy with it at the mo.

If you really want to convert your car to diffs that have needle bearings for the diff outputs to run in. it can be done!!

If you want any info, get in touch :)

Nige.

rickbaja

11-14-2010, 11:50 AM

mynameismud76

11-14-2010, 05:02 PM

Think they're 9834709187 dollars, and out of production..we're all out of luck on this one.

mradlin

11-14-2010, 09:58 PM

I sent an email to Fioroni and this is the what i received

NO, NO MARKET.

Da: Mike Radlin [mailto:mikeradlin@shaw.ca]
Inviato: domenica 14 novembre 2010 4.00
A: Info Modellismo Fioroni
Oggetto: Re: R: Torsen diff

do you have any plans on making them again in the future?

From: Info Modellismo Fioroni

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:22 AM

To: 'Mike Radlin'

Subject: R: Torsen diff

No, sorry.

Da: Mike Radlin [mailto:mikeradlin@shaw.ca]
Inviato: sabato 13 novembre 2010 17.35
A: info@fioroni.com
Oggetto: Torsen diff

Hello,

I was wondering if you still have the Torsen diff available for the FG models?

Thanks

Mike Radlin

mynameismud76

11-14-2010, 11:01 PM

Thanks for enquiring Mike =)

mradlin

11-14-2010, 11:34 PM

Thanks for enquiring Mike =)

No problem Mud. I bet if a lot more people inquired about them they might consider making them again. :yahoo:

mynameismud76

11-14-2010, 11:47 PM

No problem Mud. I bet if a lot more people inquired about them they might consider making them again. :yahoo:

I'm going to Andy Dufresne them..just ordered a rock hammer and a Rita Hayworth poster.

hndaman1

12-18-2010, 11:43 AM

wyattroa

12-18-2010, 03:11 PM

Nutech has a locker out and I seen it being tested in a TB-2 and it is pretty cool and the price is not bad either..Mine will be installed this week,I was going to install an alloy diff cover but screw it, I going with a locker nowLOL

do you have link by chance? I have a 30.5 full mod in my truck and am looking to either lock up the center or get it damn close to locked..I don't want to front ballooning up.
Robert

hndaman1

12-19-2010, 01:48 PM

do you have link by chance? I have a 30.5 full mod in my truck and am looking to either lock up the center or get it damn close to locked..I don't want to front ballooning up.
Robert

if you contact Scott @ http://www.zerogravityrc.com/ he said he got some in..I'am getting mine this week when I drive up there..:yahoo::yahoo:

mynameismud76

12-19-2010, 05:49 PM

Don't know how much the Nutech ones cost, but Blackbone Racing has a diff locker that's quite strong, simple and affordable:

http://www.freeprawnracing.co.uk/blackbone-punisher-destroyer-diff-locker-bb2.html

Pipeous

12-24-2010, 06:29 PM

dif locker I think is the next step for the tb2.

mynameismud76

12-24-2010, 11:01 PM

Freeprawn Racing is stocking some Blackbone Racing diff lockers:

http://www.freeprawnracing.co.uk/blackbone-punisher-destroyer-diff-locker-bb2.html

Think Mike is running them.

hndaman1

12-28-2010, 03:23 PM

My locker is here from Nutech very nice pics on the way..

Pipeous

12-28-2010, 08:13 PM

you know, with the center locker in, we could theoretically remove half the brakes since there will be no brake bias.

mooman007uk

12-28-2010, 10:12 PM

then it'll never stop:omg: unless you fit cable or hydros up front

hndaman1

12-29-2010, 03:45 AM

i'am going to try and put the 2 rotors on 1 side with quad pads and see if that works, since I'am just using metal-metal pads anyways..:good idea: like the HPI setup

Quattronist

12-31-2011, 10:40 AM

Quattronist

12-31-2011, 10:44 AM

then it'll never stop:omg: unless you fit cable or hydros up front

Take a look at my solution:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72612673@N05/sets/72157628527040343/

mradlin

01-01-2012, 12:36 PM

Hi guys,

its a while ago we discussed Nutech`s Torsen diff.. Is there an update?

@Chris: any chance to take a look at the diff at this years toy fair in Nuernberg? I am sooo keen on that product, really would like to purchase them :)

Cheers

Take a look at my solution:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72612673@N05/sets/72157628527040343/

I haven't heard anything new about the Torsen style diff Nutech was working on. But that doesn't mean it won't get done.

Those hydros look good on the front of your ride. How do they work?

Quattronist

01-01-2012, 05:30 PM

Hi,

Page 5 of this thread... There were some pictures posted and I have seen some more in another community; unfortunately I cant remember which one...

The hdydros are great. All you need is a strong servo. I do have Hydros at the front and the back, so at the moment, too light at the rear axle.. Have to adjust that :)